Mea quidem sententia wrote:How do you know he's holding back?
Because Supes, whenever he fights anyone that isn't an outer-space being that deals crippling blows to him, is almost always depicted as holding back against
everyone.
A recent example would be Batman vs Superman, where Superman insists he isn't trying to kill Batman when he begins owning him "If I wanted it, you'd be dead already!", followed by Batman gassing him with Kryptonite in order to gain an advantage- this is an almost constant factor that occurs whenever Superman is the antagonist or battling lower tiers.
He'll dominate the fight because he's fucking Superman but he'll spend most of the fight holding back and getting tacked with all sorts of plot to prevent him from killing someone.
However I'm confused, Batman Beyond is a cartoon but also a comic, so is the cartoon the canon?
Mea quidem sententia wrote:Does Spidey never pull his punches?
Uh yeah, this is something else repeatedly mentioned in comics, how the 'heroes' hold back because they're worried they'll kill people. Spider-Man fights petty crooks and normal humans- he doesn't use his full strength against them because his full strength generally involves throwing around cars, planes, and even tanks.
That's why every crook that takes a hit from Spider-Man and doesn't instantly go down isn't assumed to be able to take his strongest punch.
Mea quidem sententia wrote:It's been years, but didn't this mind-controlled Supes destroy Terry's ship? What is considered holding back? Why isn't Spidey being questioned by others here?
'Holding back', or in this case, 'being held back', is typically the excuse comic-writers use when they have characters mind-controlled. The idea being that, when something is forcing you to do something, it will not be as effective as if you yourself were trying to do it because you're fighting against it to a degree.
Spidey's strength hasn't been shown yet and I know nothing about 2099 Spider-Man. Feel free to ask for proof of his strength- I was just pointing out how Terry taking a punch from Superman is rather vague since it probably wasn't Superman's full strength- his fights with Batman, old or new, almost never are.
Also let's be honest, that ship gets totaled a LOT in that series.