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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby CH1C4N0444 » Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:47 pm

Tarbel wrote:@CH1C4N0444
Hulk could have just reacted before the lasers hit if the shield wasn't there.
I feel lesser characters have dodged/blocked Ironman's repulsors before, so I don't think they are LS.
Also, the scan you showed with CA throwing his shield and Ironman firing his repulsors pretty much proves they aren't light speed. The scan that said Ironman has LS repulsors is pretty old, and the speed of his repulsors may have been retconned/forgotten over the years. Again, this is my guess. I just wouldn't bet all my cards on one old scan when there are a lot more up to date scans which may argue against LS repulsors (like that first one you showed).
http://www.comicvine.com/iron-man/4005- ... s-1573433/
Some extra scans which may help prove my point (not sure the level of speed of those characters).


If he reacted before they hit wouldn't that just show he was that fast?
Not really a reason to prove something is or isn't that fast though. Considering PIS is a thing. I could just as easily say SS isn't FTL because he's been tagged by the Thing before, or any FTL character really, for that matter.
Considering we have a two canon statements saying they are, it doesn't. I posted two scans of it being listed as LS one being considerably newer than the other. Unless we have anything stating that it's been retconned, why should we believe it has been? It's still canon and there shouldn't be any reason why it won't move that speed anymore. Unless you have a scan saying otherwise.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Tarbel » Thu Mar 19, 2015 4:01 pm

@wingedlion
In general, for calculations I do, I would use a low end unless a specific reason tells us otherwise.
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I'm talking about the reaction time moment when everyone stops moving for a few seconds while the player gets a chance to input their buttons. In the scene before the one you specified, it showed the same enemy attacking without the player responding, and I believe there is some amount of delay before the enemy actually attacks. We don't know how long the enemy is not moving before attacking, which is a variable in the calc. Then comes the time factor delay where we don't know exactly how much time is slowed down for the player during the reaction moment.
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It would show that he anticipated the attack, meaning he would be as fast or faster than the attackers themselves, not the weapon's speed. Like a person being able to dodge another person firing a lightspeed weapon, they don't need to be as fast as the shot fired, just as fast as the person pulling the trigger and anticipating where the shot is going to hit.
I don't read comics so I don't know too much about the character's abilities. But my judgement is based: on the only two scans stating that Ironman's repulsors are lightspeed being quite old, the (possibly) numerous occasions in newer scans where Ironman's repulsors are shown to be not lightspeed (or can't be), and the sometimes inconsistent showings of ability for characters by the different authors of those comics. I'm not saying my judgement is sound, and usually your judgement would be correct, but these are my feelings based on what I know about comics. Too lazy to actually search up at the moment.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby wingedlion » Fri Mar 20, 2015 11:49 am

Tarbel wrote:@wingedlion
In general, for calculations I do, I would use a low end unless a specific reason tells us otherwise.

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Ah, ok.
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Tarbel wrote:I'm talking about the reaction time moment when everyone stops moving for a few seconds while the player gets a chance to input their buttons. In the scene before the one you specified, it showed the same enemy attacking without the player responding, and I believe there is some amount of delay before the enemy actually attacks. We don't know how long the enemy is not moving before attacking, which is a variable in the calc. Then comes the time factor delay where we don't know exactly how much time is slowed down for the player during the reaction moment.

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Couldn't we just count the seconds before the samurai dashes through you? Cause that would be the amount of time that he is not moving.
As for the time factor, well no one else was moving, so it wasn't really a time slow. More like time was frozen. Couldn't we just use that?
Again, sorry if i still don't get what your saying.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Tarbel » Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:59 pm

@wingedlion
Time, during the reaction time moment, seemed frozen because it was slowed down by a lot. How much it was slowed down by is a variable we don't know. Using the seconds in real time would slow down the feat significantly because the scene is seen in slowmo.
But I haven't looked at the video recently so I don't remember that much. Maybe you should post it again and specify which part because I may be thinking about something else.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby wingedlion » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:37 am

Tarbel wrote:@wingedlion
Time, during the reaction time moment, seemed frozen because it was slowed down by a lot. How much it was slowed down by is a variable we don't know. Using the seconds in real time would slow down the feat significantly because the scene is seen in slowmo.
But I haven't looked at the video recently so I don't remember that much. Maybe you should post it again and specify which part because I may be thinking about something else.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0cD4VjKqY0#t=654
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Commander Cross » Wed Apr 08, 2015 5:06 pm

How many Machs is Light-Speed+, and how do we divide the amounts by the numbers of either 5 or 25, by chance?

How many Machs is 1/5th the Speed of Light and how many Machs is 1/25th, for that matter?
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Tarbel » Mon Apr 13, 2015 2:41 am

Light speed is ~300,000,000 m/s in a vacuum. Mach speed is, according to google calculator, 340.29 m/s. Mach 2, 3, 4, and so on would be multiples of that speed. So you could get the number of Machs the speed of light is by dividing 300,000,000 by 340.29 ~= Mach 881,601.
You can then get the fractions of light speed in Mach form by multiplying by the fraction. 1/5th the Speed of Light ~= Mach 176,320. 1/25th the Speed of Light ~= Mach 35,264.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Commander Cross » Mon Apr 13, 2015 6:26 am

Tarbel wrote:Light speed is ~300,000,000 m/s in a vacuum. Mach speed is, according to google calculator, 340.29 m/s. Mach 2, 3, 4, and so on would be multiples of that speed. So you could get the number of Machs the speed of light is by dividing 300,000,000 by 340.29 ~= Mach 881,601.
You can then get the fractions of light speed in Mach form by multiplying by the fraction. 1/5th the Speed of Light ~= Mach 176,320. 1/25th the Speed of Light ~= Mach 35,264.


So in Mathematical terms, how many times divided by The Speed of Light would be required to get Mach 05-Mach 25+ Results again, to be sure?
I'm good at Multiplication, not all that good in Division.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Tarbel » Thu Apr 16, 2015 7:26 pm

That's what calculators are for, it's not like people usually do calcs by hand XD.
If you want to get Machs converted to units of c (lightspeed), you'll need the conversion rate of Machs per c. As I said, a Mach is 340.29 m/s and c is 300,000,000 m/s. So Mach 1 in terms of c is 340.29/300,000,000 = 0.0000011343 c, that is Mach 1 = 0.0000011343 c. Mach 5 is 5 times that: 0.0000056715 c. Mach 25 is 25 times Mach 1, or 5 times Mach 5: 0.0000283575 c.
Just to tabulate results:
Mach 1 = 0.0000011343 c
Mach 5 = 0.0000056715 c
Mach 25 = 0.0000283575 c

Because they give such small numbers, I find it peculiar for one to decide to use units of c for speeds less than Mach 10,000; you won't be able to make much sense out of the tiny numbers, save for dramatic effect just to show how small a speed is in comparison to the speed of light.
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Re: Calc Request Thread

Postby Commander Cross » Tue Apr 21, 2015 5:59 pm

Tarbel wrote:That's what calculators are for, it's not like people usually do calcs by hand XD.
If you want to get Machs converted to units of c (lightspeed), you'll need the conversion rate of Machs per c. As I said, a Mach is 340.29 m/s and c is 300,000,000 m/s. So Mach 1 in terms of c is 340.29/300,000,000 = 0.0000011343 c, that is Mach 1 = 0.0000011343 c. Mach 5 is 5 times that: 0.0000056715 c. Mach 25 is 25 times Mach 1, or 5 times Mach 5: 0.0000283575 c.
Just to tabulate results:
Mach 1 = 0.0000011343 c
Mach 5 = 0.0000056715 c
Mach 25 = 0.0000283575 c

Because they give such small numbers, I find it peculiar for one to decide to use units of c for speeds less than Mach 10,000; you won't be able to make much sense out of the tiny numbers, save for dramatic effect just to show how small a speed is in comparison to the speed of light.


I figured the tricky part is to start with the lowest of the higher-digit numbers to divide the Speeds of Light from, and go with multiples of 5 to divide from there actually.
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