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Postby pimpmage » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:11 pm

So take a character like GEoM. Humans who view him fall to the ground weeping at his image of the perfection of the human race. Would it be fair to say other humans in future matches would do the same? What about characters that are not necessarily human, but retain human characteristics like say a Doctor? What about Hulk?
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:35 pm

pimpmage wrote:So take a character like GEoM. Humans who view him fall to the ground weeping at his image of the perfection of the human race. Would it be fair to say other humans in future matches would do the same? What about characters that are not necessarily human, but retain human characteristics like say a Doctor? What about Hulk?


Well, you do have to factor in that everyone in 40K knows who he is, which most likely plays a role in that.
Not to mention as such things go, that one in particular has got to be one of the silliest ones.
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby pimpmage » Sat Apr 01, 2017 1:22 pm

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pimpmage wrote:So take a character like GEoM. Humans who view him fall to the ground weeping at his image of the perfection of the human race. Would it be fair to say other humans in future matches would do the same? What about characters that are not necessarily human, but retain human characteristics like say a Doctor? What about Hulk?


Well, you do have to factor in that everyone in 40K knows who he is, which most likely plays a role in that.
Not to mention as such things go, that one in particular has got to be one of the silliest ones.
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There are stories of his first meeting with people and having them blinded and catatonic by his magnificence. This effect should also happen with humans seeing angry space marines. The effect was dubbed transhuman dread.

And another point, he is supposed to be the God of humanity, humans instinctively bow down to him. Should such an effect have tangible outcomes against human characters in vs matches?
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sat Apr 01, 2017 3:35 pm

pimpmage wrote:There are stories of his first meeting with people and having them blinded and catatonic by his magnificence. This effect should also happen with humans seeing angry space marines. The effect was dubbed transhuman dread.

And another point, he is supposed to be the God of humanity, humans instinctively bow down to him. Should such an effect have tangible outcomes against human characters in vs matches?


Sounds kinda like people being repulsed at some creatures because they're so ugly- just doesn't make sense from another universe perspective since it's very subjective.
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Postby pimpmage » Sat Apr 01, 2017 4:15 pm

But being repulsed by a creature who's shtick is to be horrifying to perceive has tangible effects. Have you ever read any lovecraftian literature? Creatures from that universe cause madness and crippling fear to those who look upon them. If we had a match between you and a Night gaunt from the lovecraft universe, would you be capable of killing it even if you had anti night gaunt bullets in an anti night gaunt gun? Even if this creature was incapable of getting at you? No, you would go insane and shit yourself, losing the match by just looking at the creature's form. Effects like these have been shown to operate when looking upon the Emperor, or facing down a space marine in combat.
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:22 pm

pimpmage wrote:But being repulsed by a creature who's shtick is to be horrifying to perceive has tangible effects. Have you ever read any lovecraftian literature? Creatures from that universe cause madness and crippling fear to those who look upon them. If we had a match between you and a Night gaunt from the lovecraft universe, would you be capable of killing it even if you had anti night gaunt bullets in an anti night gaunt gun? Even if this creature was incapable of getting at you? No, you would go insane and shit yourself, losing the match by just looking at the creature's form. Effects like these have been shown to operate when looking upon the Emperor, or facing down a space marine in combat.


That's entirely up to the author though- who has no power over characters from other fictions and how they perceive things. That is something restricted only to the universes they come from- not additional ones.
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby Alpha or Omega » Sat Apr 01, 2017 7:46 pm

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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby pimpmage » Sat Apr 01, 2017 8:08 pm

That's entirely up to the author though- who has no power over characters from other fictions and how they perceive things.

This statement is just all sorts of wrong. For one, how could James Bond perceive Luffy walking down the street then? Neither author can state their character is visible to the other. Neither can see each other then.
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sun Apr 02, 2017 1:04 am

pimpmage wrote:
That's entirely up to the author though- who has no power over characters from other fictions and how they perceive things.

This statement is just all sorts of wrong. For one, how could James Bond perceive Luffy walking down the street then? Neither author can state their character is visible to the other. Neither can see each other then.


Paranormal effects like a fear aura are magical and nature and as such, not up to subjective views, they exude a magical field that makes you afraid.
Someone looking 'pretty enough' that people are stunned is entirely subjective. Same with scary or any other physical attribute.

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pimpmage wrote: Effects like these have been shown to operate when looking upon the Emperor, or facing down a space marine in combat.


Space Marines kinda proves my point- for any given instance of you finding someone "stunned" by a marine I would wager I can find an instance of someone being quite willing to fight them.

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I would theorize that this is nothing but squandering.

This is an odd request, but may you, my fellow, hand your plans for your fanfiction.
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Re: Non combat effects of some characters.

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