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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:29 pm

With all that out there. Anyone have arguments against Dante sealing Alucard?
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Sun Sep 02, 2018 11:06 pm

At risk of derailing again the Mundus vs Argosax debate is now pointless. The intro cutscenes for DMC 5 got leaked and
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the new big bad literally beat the entire cast at once and punched Dante so hard rebellion shattered
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby wingedlion » Mon Sep 10, 2018 9:55 pm

ka-tet19 wrote:At risk of derailing again the Mundus vs Argosax debate is now pointless. The intro cutscenes for DMC 5 got leaked and
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the new big bad literally beat the entire cast at once and punched Dante so hard rebellion shattered

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First of all, seriously? That sounds hype.

But secondly, what does that have to do with Mundus and Argosax?
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Thu Sep 13, 2018 9:47 pm

Oh the hype is real. And just that neither is anywhere close to being the strongest big bad at this point.
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:03 pm

So just a few things. In the hype for DMC V capcom released a video about DMC history and it said argosax and mundus are equal. So there's that. Also Urizen's power apparently shook the foundations of the world.
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby wingedlion » Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:08 pm

Yep. That seems to be the case. Abigail too, though we already knew that.
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:30 am

wingedlion wrote:Yep. That seems to be the case. Abigail too, though we already knew that.

Wait what about Abigail?
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby wingedlion » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:49 am

ka-tet19 wrote:
wingedlion wrote:Yep. That seems to be the case. Abigail too, though we already knew that.

Wait what about Abigail?

That he rivals Mundus in power.
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby ka-tet19 » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:34 pm

wingedlion wrote:
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wingedlion wrote:Yep. That seems to be the case. Abigail too, though we already knew that.

Wait what about Abigail?

That he rivals Mundus in power.

I used to think that. Now I'm kinda on the fence. He says he rivals the 4 great devils (Whoever those are. You'd assume any great devils that exist would involve mundus and Argosax but we don't know the other 2.) Since they changed the order of the Games it really makes scaling Dante in the Anime really hard. Either he's just about the same strength as he is in one or he's just a little weaker than he is in 2. In 2 he one shots Argosax in base and fondled mundus in base (in the novel). In 1 Mundus could stomp standard DT dante. Abigail's stomping base anime Dante but getting one shotted by DT Dante. So he has a weird place in the hierarchy. Does anything else in the lore suggest hes mundus level other than that statement?
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Re: Alucard vs Dante

Postby wingedlion » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:27 pm

ka-tet19 wrote:I used to think that. Now I'm kinda on the fence. He says he rivals the 4 great devils (Whoever those are. You'd assume any great devils that exist would involve mundus and Argosax but we don't know the other 2.)

We know from the dmc1 guide, dmc3 manga and now with dmc5 that Mundus and Argosax were not the only kings of the underworld. So perhaps the other two are just previous demon kings.
ka-tet19 wrote: Since they changed the order of the Games it really makes scaling Dante in the Anime really hard. Either he's just about the same strength as he is in one or he's just a little weaker than he is in 2. In 2 he one shots Argosax in base and fondled mundus in base (in the novel). In 1 Mundus could stomp standard DT dante. Abigail's stomping base anime Dante but getting one shotted by DT Dante. So he has a weird place in the hierarchy.

Whether 2 was before or after 4, we know Dante grows stronger over time. So either way, the former option (that he's the same strength as DMC1 Dante) wouldn't really be correct. That further matches with Dante beating Abigail with nothing more than base DT.
So 2 being switched around to before 4 doesn't really change that.
ka-tet19 wrote:Does anything else in the lore suggest hes mundus level other than that statement?

Well, even before that statement it was outright said in the anime that he rivaled the demon king's power. Hence the statement now in the timeline video just being further confirmation of that.
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