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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby Lowk » Sat Mar 31, 2018 6:37 pm

Friendlysociopath wrote:
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Jin and Kazuya have wings which makes them harder to knock out of bounds. Heihachi, as tenacious as he is, can't really do much once he's blasted away.


Yeah but to blast him off the ring you need to get him towards the edge- which is fairly hard to do when big explosions won't hurt him.


They don't have to hurt him. He's under 200 pounds. There are people with the ability to consistently blast away that amount of weight. And there is nothing to grab on to.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:38 pm

Lowk wrote:They don't have to hurt him. He's under 200 pounds. There are people with the ability to consistently blast away that amount of weight. And there is nothing to grab on to.


Weight is not the only part of that equation. Superhumans like Heihachi can dish out and recieve force without moving the distance a human of their weight would.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby Lowk » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:34 am

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Lowk wrote:They don't have to hurt him. He's under 200 pounds. There are people with the ability to consistently blast away that amount of weight. And there is nothing to grab on to.


Weight is not the only part of that equation. Superhumans like Heihachi can dish out and recieve force without moving the distance a human of their weight would.


Heichachi has been sent flying by less than what the heavy hitters can dish out.
And people like Aang have other methods besides pure pushing force. Like pulling the air from under his feet and dragging him along. Or creating a tornado that lifts him upwards so he can't find purchase to resist.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sun Apr 01, 2018 3:30 am

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Lowk wrote:They don't have to hurt him. He's under 200 pounds. There are people with the ability to consistently blast away that amount of weight. And there is nothing to grab on to.


Weight is not the only part of that equation. Superhumans like Heihachi can dish out and recieve force without moving the distance a human of their weight would.


Heichachi has been sent flying by less than what the heavy hitters can dish out.
And people like Aang have other methods besides pure pushing force. Like pulling the air from under his feet and dragging him along. Or creating a tornado that lifts him upwards so he can't find purchase to resist.


True. That said- the tournament of power arena is fairly large. To actually get him all the way out there requires some work- work that would likely be spent on more attention-grabbing threats as opposed to the really old dude with weird hair. All sides have more obvious people to target compared to Heihachi. Also, hypothetically, why would this air-pulling not be subject to the exact same "strength means I move less" principle as a punch?

That said I only just now got to look through the full list- I see "Island-busting Akuma" is here- which puts the strength of pretty much all of Tekken to shame unless you scale to the one guy with the mountain sitting on him? Heihachi's dad or something?
And Jin+ Kazyua have to my knowledge never been able to/wanted to control the output of their lasers- so if they hit someone with them they'll probably be DQ'd if they don't survive it.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby AOTUA » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:56 am

What's stopping Zaher from just bending the breath out of people's lungs? 'Cause he can do that.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby Friendlysociopath » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:19 am

AOTUA wrote:What's stopping Zaher from just bending the breath out of people's lungs? 'Cause he can do that.


That sounds fatal- and so not allowed in the ToP.
Also because a lot of the characters here are faster than Avatar characters.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby AOTUA » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:13 pm

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AOTUA wrote:What's stopping Zaher from just bending the breath out of people's lungs? 'Cause he can do that.


That sounds fatal- and so not allowed in the ToP.
Also because a lot of the characters here are faster than Avatar characters.

Why would it be fatal? I can choke ya til you pass out and stop, you won't die. Korra just passed out when he tried to do it to her, before one of those two bender dude she hangs out with helped out... I think.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby guardianangel1911 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 6:57 pm

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guardianangel1911 wrote:True, but they aren't the only ones with ranged options, Danny has chi blasts as well.


Yeah but there ranged options can snipe out satelites in space.


Sorry been out of pocket at an anime convention.

As far as lasers Danny at least does have passive energy absorbing
This has allowed him to punch magical blasts (Masters of Kung Fu Annual) though this could also just be straight clashing
https://imgur.com/4YwertZ

Absorbing high powered spells notably being the flames of Faltine (Iron Fist Volume 1 Issue 7)
https://imgur.com/eysBmP2
And then the Crimson Bands of Cyttorak when he rage boosted enough to overcome his 3 charge limit he used to have on the Iron Fist (same volume and issue)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/ecDbvN87bbkt1J ... od0l=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/i9xypm6QE9eXS7 ... KDvM=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/s_NJSh5wqeeUk1 ... H55i=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/6qmsw02Kw6no-R ... 57cF=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/nJ_d7mzyRBCUOt ... hQ4S=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/iXZzKF4VHvI6vf ... PL1R=s1600

Survived and absorbed much of Radion's most powerful blast (Iron Fist Volume 1 Issues 3 and 4)
https://imgur.com/a/xOwBu
whose power is supposedly measured in the "hundreds of megatons"
https://i.imgur.com/P11YBd7.jpg

Fires himself at a train packed with explosives via connecting to/absorbing electromagnetic energy and survives/absorbs the explosion that would have made "Hiroshima look like a sparkler" (Immortal Iron Fist 14)
https://imgur.com/a/Cu8iX

Getting blasted by Sunspot who then blasts Silver Surfer out of the building with a similar blast then Danny jumps up and nails him knocking him out (New Mutants issue 44 of the 2009 run) though I'll bet that passive energy absorption played a hand in that
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/PMkbcmV2jp9Pt5 ... 3Vx3=s1600
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/YqIBd0oHzlhP3w ... Axya=s1600

So Danny should be good on the lasers and other energy type attacks front
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby TopaztheSpaz » Sun Apr 01, 2018 8:40 pm

Zaheer is also able to fly via airbending. He is also the only bender on his team capable of it. By flight I mean he doesn't use like a tornado or anything to lift him up he just flies.
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Re: A Tournament of Power 1

Postby guardianangel1911 » Sun Apr 01, 2018 9:09 pm

I think that would be blocked by the no fly effect on the arena, the only people who could fly were the ones with natural wings or forms with natural wings that allowed them to flap and fly like birds.
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