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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Friendlysociopath » Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:35 pm

Huh. Well I guess Edward could've started the transmutation with his hands and then run along it as it manifested- I think that adds up properly.

Still, that's a great deal of rock. How high can Guts jump? If Ed just makes walls around him- Guts is gonna have an issue getting out.
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Alpha or Omega » Mon Nov 13, 2017 4:24 pm

Scene still feels odd. Like, I wanna say it's anime only, but Brotherhood is pretty much faithful.
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Polloloko » Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:54 pm

Edward Elric reacted and blocks Lighting Bolts

https://sta.sh/0ej4a8xepl8

https://sta.sh/01lj8lbswucm

While Guts reacts and dodges a Lighting bolt before it comes out

https://imgur.com/a/2LTd4

So that means Edward & Guts have Massive Hypersonic Reactions & Movements?
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Friendlysociopath » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:02 pm

Presumably not in both cases- while not impossible- it comes across as unlikely.

Wrath outclasses the shit out of everyone in that verse physically and he relies on precog to deal with bullets so lightning-timing makes no sense.

Guts has an opponent who explicitly creates shockwaves when flying and surprises everyone by doing so. As this is an actual plot point and noted- it would imply nobody prior to this was going fast enough to make said shockwaves (sonic booms).
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Polloloko » Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:45 pm

Friendlysociopath wrote:Presumably not in both cases- while not impossible- it comes across as unlikely.

Wrath outclasses the shit out of everyone in that verse physically and he relies on precog to deal with bullets so lightning-timing makes no sense.

Guts has an opponent who explicitly creates shockwaves when flying and surprises everyone by doing so. As this is an actual plot point and noted- it would imply nobody prior to this was going fast enough to make said shockwaves (sonic booms).


Then they are Hypersonic with Highly Hypersonic reactions ( Edward is easly bullet timer and have blitzed Supersonic oponents, while Guts reacts and dodges a Supersonic creature who was about to ram him over )

What do you think?
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Alpha or Omega » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:07 pm

I'm not having access to the first two links Pollo has.
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Polloloko » Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 pm

Alpha or Omega wrote:I'm not having access to the first two links Pollo has.


Found non broken links of Edward reacting to lighting bolts

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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Friendlysociopath » Mon Nov 13, 2017 11:36 pm

The... giant ball of energy that formed inside a tornado is 'lightning'?
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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Lowk » Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:57 am

Lowk wrote:Ed Transmutes the Dragonslayer into goop.


To be fair, he has to know the composition of Guts' armor to transmute it- isn't the Berserker armor some magical metal made by dwarves? Might not be able to pull that exact one off. Scar gets by because his arm does the work for him- Edd doesn't have that advantage.[/quote]

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Re: Edward Elric vs Guts

Postby Friendlysociopath » Tue Nov 14, 2017 1:12 am

Lowk wrote:
Lowk wrote:Ed Transmutes the Dragonslayer into goop.


Friendly wrote:To be fair, he has to know the composition of Guts' armor to transmute it- isn't the Berserker armor some magical metal made by dwarves? Might not be able to pull that exact one off. Scar gets by because his arm does the work for him- Edd doesn't have that advantage.


Dragonslayer is the sword. It either iron or steel.


Fair point- although Edd's style seems more using alchemy to impede his opponent and attack rather than mess up their weapon like that. The only instance I can even think of him doing that trick was against the sentient-armor that he basically couldn't kill and against Greed's armor that he couldn't break.

That said, to do that he'd (presumably) have both hands on the Dragonslayer- this strikes me as a poor decision when Guts has a gun for an arm and could literally blast Edd in the face with it.
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